From Sales to CRO: Leadership Lessons for Scaling Revenue Teams
🎧 PodShort
26 min squeezed to 2
AI SprinklerAS Sales Tech New

Richard Smollen
CRO at ShipHero
Full episode from Topline
Quotable Moments
The key difference is that I don't feel like I need to have all the answers upfront. I now have to rely solely upon having the right leadership team in place and empowering them.
The biggest lesson for me is that you have to be accountable for having a good plan and it is thought out and then you have to empower your team to execute that plan.
The only thing you should be holding yourself accountable to is: do you have a good plan for what we're going to do next? Is it tangible? Is it creative? Is it dealing with realities? Is it making the most of them?
Key Insights
- ShipHero's core business is its Warehouse Management System (WMS) technology, designed to help brands and 3PLs improve efficiency and speed in delivering goods to consumers.
- The company expanded into fulfillment services during the pandemic, offering a brand called LBK, but their primary focus remains on their WMS.
- A common challenge for emerging leaders is the difficulty of 'letting go' and empowering their teams to execute tasks they themselves excel at.
- Curiosity is a crucial trait for CROs, enabling them to understand customer problems deeply, develop effective solutions, and drive revenue growth.
- When transitioning to a leadership role, the focus shifts from doing tasks yourself to building and empowering a high-performing team.
- Leaders should be accountable for having a clear, thought-out plan for moving forward, rather than relying solely on past successes or external factors.
- The book '7 Habits of Highly Effective People' is a valuable resource for leaders, particularly the concept of prioritizing important but non-urgent tasks.
- The key to successful leadership involves building a team, providing them with a clear plan, and fostering collaboration to achieve common goals, even when setbacks occur.
Metrics Mentioned
- $100 million (ShipHero's current annual revenue.)
- over a decade (How long ShipHero has been in business.)
- over 15 years (How long Richard Smollen and Sam Jacobs have known each other.)
- 26 years (Richard Smollen's total career length.)
RevBots.ai View:
- AI Sprinkler leaders often struggle to delegate, clinging to legacy workflows.
- Curiosity-driven problem-solving aligns with ARM's focus on customer-centric AI.
- Transitioning from SaaS Hoarder to ARM requires empowering AI-driven teams.
- Clear strategic plans are key for ARM leaders orchestrating AI workflows.
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